MOONSHIELD
Well-known member
sto posto sam siguran da ti prvi nebi sjeo na to kinesko govno čak ni da ga dobiješ gratis kao nagradu za ulizivanje 🤣
PRIZMIĆ MOTO Fantic-Lambretta-Malaguti
- Thread starter Bob Rock
- Start date
boško buha
Well-known member
Branko-ST
Well-known member
diesel power
Well-known member
I have an euro5 Caballero 500 Rally.
Already did 6000km.
Very happy with it, it is the kind of bike I always wanted. Enough power for traveling, great handling, great brakes, great suspension that can handle harsh conditions, lightweight enough to grab it and turn it around if I get stuck somewhere.
My observations:
- The engine tends to get quite hot if going too slow or spend a lot of time idling. I would recommend using 15w50 synthetic oil in it and change the oil more frequently then what's recommend in the manual ( I am doing it every 3000km). It's an euro5, so the engine is running lean. And also, don't forget to check the valve clearance as recommended in the manual.
- A 6 pin to OBD adapter, a bluetooth OBD and phone app ( I like the Torque app ) are handy tools to diagnose problems.
- I had a temperature sensor installed in the engine's head, and an oil pressure sensor installed in the filter housing.
- Regarding the headlight connector, I would recommend sealing the exterior cable fittings with something like hot glue, and putting some silicone grease inside that connector, as it is not waterproof.
- Had to disassemble the front headlight because of a loose inner led lens ( tolerance issue? ). Easy fix, just put some insulating tape inside the lens socket, insert the lens, and it will be firmly held in place. In doubt, remove the headlight from the support, and shake it to see if you hear something loose inside.
- One of the band metal gear clamp that holds the rear shock adjuster broke on mine, keep an eye on that if you do a lot of bumpy roads. Easy fix, you can get one of those in any hardware store.
- Make sure the cooling tank breathing hose is not in touch or too close with the exhaust, mine melted a bit and I had to be replaced, it was better relocated and secured with a zip tie not to get too close to the exhaust again.
- I changed the stock Torch spark plug to an NGK ER9EHIX spark plug. Still testing that, doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference ( but haven't tested it properly yet ). I read somewhere that the stock spark plug should be replaced with a better one ( and I was bored ). If you do that, make sure the spark gap is between the recommended values before inserting it ( 0.7-0.8mm ).
- Make sure no electrical harness parts are touching any hot parts of the engine. There was also a green 6 pin block connector ( where you can put a gear indicator ) near the engine top which was hanging loose in mine, I put a dummy cap in it and secured it with a zip tie.
- There is a 2-pin white connector near the ABS module that's not connected to anything, if I understood correctly, it seems to be used to configure some kind of setting in the ABS module ( in the Rally it will be disconnected, in other models the pins may be shunted ). Just secured it with a zip tie as well and covered it with a rubber cap.
- If you care about that, be careful when filling up the tank, as fuel seems to cause some staining in the plastic tank cover.
Znači pizdarije kao kod kineza...
Already did 6000km.
Very happy with it, it is the kind of bike I always wanted. Enough power for traveling, great handling, great brakes, great suspension that can handle harsh conditions, lightweight enough to grab it and turn it around if I get stuck somewhere.
My observations:
- The engine tends to get quite hot if going too slow or spend a lot of time idling. I would recommend using 15w50 synthetic oil in it and change the oil more frequently then what's recommend in the manual ( I am doing it every 3000km). It's an euro5, so the engine is running lean. And also, don't forget to check the valve clearance as recommended in the manual.
- A 6 pin to OBD adapter, a bluetooth OBD and phone app ( I like the Torque app ) are handy tools to diagnose problems.
- I had a temperature sensor installed in the engine's head, and an oil pressure sensor installed in the filter housing.
- Regarding the headlight connector, I would recommend sealing the exterior cable fittings with something like hot glue, and putting some silicone grease inside that connector, as it is not waterproof.
- Had to disassemble the front headlight because of a loose inner led lens ( tolerance issue? ). Easy fix, just put some insulating tape inside the lens socket, insert the lens, and it will be firmly held in place. In doubt, remove the headlight from the support, and shake it to see if you hear something loose inside.
- One of the band metal gear clamp that holds the rear shock adjuster broke on mine, keep an eye on that if you do a lot of bumpy roads. Easy fix, you can get one of those in any hardware store.
- Make sure the cooling tank breathing hose is not in touch or too close with the exhaust, mine melted a bit and I had to be replaced, it was better relocated and secured with a zip tie not to get too close to the exhaust again.
- I changed the stock Torch spark plug to an NGK ER9EHIX spark plug. Still testing that, doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference ( but haven't tested it properly yet ). I read somewhere that the stock spark plug should be replaced with a better one ( and I was bored ). If you do that, make sure the spark gap is between the recommended values before inserting it ( 0.7-0.8mm ).
- Make sure no electrical harness parts are touching any hot parts of the engine. There was also a green 6 pin block connector ( where you can put a gear indicator ) near the engine top which was hanging loose in mine, I put a dummy cap in it and secured it with a zip tie.
- There is a 2-pin white connector near the ABS module that's not connected to anything, if I understood correctly, it seems to be used to configure some kind of setting in the ABS module ( in the Rally it will be disconnected, in other models the pins may be shunted ). Just secured it with a zip tie as well and covered it with a rubber cap.
- If you care about that, be careful when filling up the tank, as fuel seems to cause some staining in the plastic tank cover.
Znači pizdarije kao kod kineza...
Bob Rock
Well-known member
Viktor dobavlja direktno..On radi kao njihov diler..Mi to ne želimo..Stavio je cijene koje sam ja zadnje dogovorio s Talijanima..Mi imamo još nesto motora...Enduro 250, XEF 250, caballero 125 i flat track 125...Nećemo ih vise uzimati...Kad to rasprodamo, ostavljamo samo servis od Fantica.
ivan_m
Well-known member
Klasična talijanska priča... Da im krajnji kupac pokuca na vrata nikakvo čudo da mu daju vašu ulaznu cijenu...
boško buha
Well-known member
Nije polemika kad uporno u svakoj temi isti guraju tezu kako su svi koji kupuju ili barem zele nesto novo debili jer su neke starudije zakon. I sto god kosta vise od 100kn je prevara majstora. Sta s njima imam polemizirat. Kad je tema popravak starih kanti onda mogu pitat moona, za sve ostalo je truba.😇
Bob Rock
Well-known member
Moram priznati da sam razočaran. A opet ne koliko s Benellijem..Dogovorimo sve s njima, a onda nas šalju da uvozim iz Srbije motore..Naravno, nismo htjeli biti diler za srpsku firmu..Sad ulaze na mala vrata na taj način u Hrvatsku..
Ali ništa od toga..Neće nitko raditi za siću..
Nema tu zarade na servisu..Ljudi dođu 2 puta dok je garancija, zaradiš čistih 40-50ak eura po servisu i to je to..A utrpaju ti sve sta mogu, dijagnostiku, alate itd..
Mene tu brine nebriga za krajnjeg korisnika.
Nezadovoljan uvoznik i diler uzrokuju problem kupcu..
Fantic nije poslušao ni jednu sugestiju, nije ispravio ni jedan uoćen problem..
Potpuno drugačije nam je sa Suzukijem. Oni su besprijekorni u svom poslu.
Dobar nam je i austrijski KSR, proizvođač Lambrette i Malagutija.. Slušaju, uoćavaju i uvažavaju...
Fantic je bio ok u početku, ali se je nakon nekoliko godina potpuno promijenila garnitura ljudi tamo...Došli su neki ljudi koji nemaju veze s motorima...Samo se gleda profit, a nema budučnosti na taj način..
Napier
Well-known member
Evo pravi talijanski kitajac
swm-motorcycles.it
www.rideapart.com
Italian motorcycles manufacturer - Home | SWM Motorcycles
SWM Motorcycles is a renowned Italian motorcycles manufacturer, an internationally famous motorcycle manufacturer from Lombardy. Check out the new range!
swm-motorcycles.it
Italian Manufacturer SWM Introduces The Custom V1200 Cruiser At EICMA
Italian motorcycle company SWM has debuted its first big-bore cruiser at EICMA 2022 called the Custom V1200.
www.rideapart.com
MOONSHIELD
Well-known member
ma neš ti mene nikad za ništa pitati, to budi bez brige, ti si prepametan da tražiš savjet od maloumnih idijota kak sam ja, a ja sam prevelika seljačina da imam živaca za (pre)seratore kao što si ti
novi motori renomiranih brendova, bez obzira da li je u pitanju švaba, japanac ili talijan, s razlogom koštaju kolko koštaju jer je iza njih 50 i više godina ulaganja u r&d i motosport, dok se kineska poludovršena smeća bez ikakvog razloga i referenci bilo na cesti, bilo u motosportu, guraju u taj cjenovni rang
moraš biti jebeno dobar prodavač da prodaš tu priču nekoj budali u doba dok su informacije, ali i dezinformacije dostupne apsolutno svima
MOONSHIELD
Well-known member
DiscoVolante
Well-known member
Konačno sa snagom prilagođenom ovjesu i kočnicama.
Bob Rock
Well-known member
Ajme nemoj i ti🙂...
Zvalo me je 10 ljudi do sad i pitaju za novi Strom250SX...Nema ga u Eu...
Napier
Well-known member
Evo u komsiluku 
Suzuki V-Strom SX Price in Bangalore, V-Strom SX On Road Price in Bangalore - BikeWale
Suzuki V-Strom SX on road price in Bangalore - ₹ 2,77,013. Looking for detailed price break up? Check it here with offers & EMI options for all variants.
www.bikewale.com
Bob Rock
Well-known member
U idućem broju Motorevije izlazi test našeg malca, Malaguti Spectre GP125...Zanima me kakvi su njihovi utisci..
MIslim da je dobar izbor za prvi motor...
Dobar paketić za 3.220 eura..Volio bi kada bi mlađa ekipa više pažnje obratila na moto 125ice, nego na skutere..
Znam da je to sanak pusti, ali eto🙂...
MIslim da je dobar izbor za prvi motor...
Dobar paketić za 3.220 eura..Volio bi kada bi mlađa ekipa više pažnje obratila na moto 125ice, nego na skutere..
Znam da je to sanak pusti, ali eto🙂...
Attachments
DiscoVolante
Well-known member
Nekad dok su se vozile dvotaktne 125ice, normalno da se obraćala pažnja na njih.
Sad kad idu slabije od nabrijane 50ke, a koštaju skoro ko MT07, normalno da nitko ne obraća pažnju na njih.
boško buha
Well-known member
